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In the name of the thousands of martyrs of Palestine who were murdered by the zioNazi terrorists!
Yes, just as happened in the summer of 2006 in Lebanon, the terrorist zioNazis are close to a beating in Ghaza.
I told you (in March 2008) this would happen if the bloody terrorist zioNazis ever did the stupidity of invading Ghaza by land:
freepalestine.tribe.net/thread...82c04d9
and now they did it. Already the zioNazi war machine has withdrawn, with its tail between its legs, from Khan Yunis in the south of the Ghaza Strip.
Yes, they have murdered hundreds and have used banned weapons and massacred and killed and destroyed and wiped out whole families in their genocidal war, but now looms their comeuppance. The zioNazi project is at the end of its life and the stupid zioNazi "jewish state" will eventually disappear.
When tribe.net censored my and my friends' posts that exposed the zioNazis and when they deleted our tribe (Free Palestine End Zionism) people said to re-create it, but we refused, and I did not bother to post on a zioNazi joke like this tribe.net for all these months. But for that pathetic act of lying censorship on the part of tribe.net I asked for one thing in return: the end of this terrorist "state of israel" and Hamas in Ghaza has started the ball rolling in that direction!
Look at the map. Ghaza looks like a gun pointing northwards towards the so-called "state of israel," and Ghaza will be the gun to finish off this terrorist crap of "israel" and save this planet from the vile zioNazis!
Victory to the Palestinian Resistance!
Yes, just as happened in the summer of 2006 in Lebanon, the terrorist zioNazis are close to a beating in Ghaza.
I told you (in March 2008) this would happen if the bloody terrorist zioNazis ever did the stupidity of invading Ghaza by land:
freepalestine.tribe.net/thread...82c04d9
and now they did it. Already the zioNazi war machine has withdrawn, with its tail between its legs, from Khan Yunis in the south of the Ghaza Strip.
Yes, they have murdered hundreds and have used banned weapons and massacred and killed and destroyed and wiped out whole families in their genocidal war, but now looms their comeuppance. The zioNazi project is at the end of its life and the stupid zioNazi "jewish state" will eventually disappear.
When tribe.net censored my and my friends' posts that exposed the zioNazis and when they deleted our tribe (Free Palestine End Zionism) people said to re-create it, but we refused, and I did not bother to post on a zioNazi joke like this tribe.net for all these months. But for that pathetic act of lying censorship on the part of tribe.net I asked for one thing in return: the end of this terrorist "state of israel" and Hamas in Ghaza has started the ball rolling in that direction!
Look at the map. Ghaza looks like a gun pointing northwards towards the so-called "state of israel," and Ghaza will be the gun to finish off this terrorist crap of "israel" and save this planet from the vile zioNazis!
Victory to the Palestinian Resistance!
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Wed, January 28, 2009 - 5:45 PMWe all wish well to the Palestinian resistance, which is trying to end Israel as a European colony.
However, the ideology of Hamas doesn't seem to lead to a good future. Hope the Palestinians will be able to do away with it when the time comes. -
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sat, January 31, 2009 - 12:14 AMtuk tuk
Please save us your grandstanding!
I don't give a damn about the "ideology" of Hamas. In this bastard world that is controlled by the war-criminal zioNazis and their cohorts, the only important thing is that the flame of the Palestinian Resistance is kept alive. I support any one who raises it and keeps it afire, and to hell with the rest of the world--including scum like the Egyptian government and CIA agents such as abbas who sell Palestinian lives to the zioNazis because they are afraid of Hamas "ideology"!
I wish so-called supporters of Palestine would think a little bit about what is really going on before they voice their misguided opinions!
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sat, January 31, 2009 - 6:24 AM"I don't give a damn about the "ideology" of Hamas"
You should care very much, because this is the ideology Palestinians will have to live with if Hamas is victorious.
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sat, January 31, 2009 - 6:55 AMSorry, but seen from Pakistan, Taliban and their cousins Hizbullah and Hamas don't appear to have anything right about them. Nor does bin Ladin.
If you want to look for a precedent for Hamas, consider the Jihadis who have done a lot to damage the lives of Kashmiris, while remaining incapable of liberating or even protecting them..
I agree that Israel has sabotaged the Palestinian leadership. Abbas, Mubarak and so on are a bunch of sell-outs. -
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sat, January 31, 2009 - 9:52 AMWell, to be fair, Hamas really aren't comparable to Taliban or Al Qaeda. Their ideology is considerably more moderate and it's very unlikely that a Hamas-controlled Palestine would look like the Taliban. -
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 12:04 AM
tuk tuk & Ryan
I have already stated my opinion and I have no time to argue again the same points. I do not care about ideology. All I care about is keeping alive the flame of the Palestinian Resistance against the scum, murderous, war-criminal zioNazis.
Ever since I woke up to the Palestinian issue, many years ago, I have encountered pompous know-it-alls who sought the easy way out at every difficult juncture in the life of the Palestinian people. I was opposed to them every time and always had my eyes on the main prize: Resistance until Victory, and Palestine: From the Sea to the River. Every time the easy and "practical" solution failed and the pompous know-it-alls were proved wrong, and every time the Resistance continued in another form. The Palestinian people will never give up until this bastard zioNazi state is gone, and I really think that non-Palestinians like you should not tell the Palestinians what to choose. Thank you. -
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 10:18 AMI support the Palestinian cause because I am against colonialism. That's has to end. There's much else that I chose to support or not, depending on my moral sense.
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 3:00 PM"and I really think that non-Palestinians like you should not tell the Palestinians what to choose."
Anyone who takes a position on the Palestinian issue is telling Palestinians "what to choose." That includes you and your uncritical support of Hamas and denunciation of Fatah. By your logic, anyone who is not a Palestinian should just ignore the Palestinian cause altogether. Thankfully no one takes this kind of logic seriously, and the Palestinians receive international support.
"I do not care about ideology."
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Wed, February 4, 2009 - 6:44 AM
While I support the Palestinian people against Israel, I don't give any political support for Hamas or Fatah. Fatah has discredited itself by selling out to Israel, starting with the Dayton accords. Hamas discredits itself by targeting Hebrew speaking civilians and putting forward an Islamic program. The solution, in my opinion, must include reaching out to the Hebrew speaking working class in order to fight for the overthrow of the racist Israeli capitalist state and include a fight to establish a democratic, secular, and socialist Palestine. In addition, other local puppets of imperialism such as the Mubarak dictatorship and the Hashemite Kingdom should be overthrown as part of the struggle for a socialist federation of the Middle East.
While putting forward this socialist program, I would be remiss to not include the immediate defense of the Palestinian people from Israel. While I give no political support Hamas, I support their military defense of Gaza from Israel, just as I supported Hezbollah in their military defense of Lebanon from Israeli attack and cheered the recent military defeat of Israel in Lebanon. -
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Wed, February 4, 2009 - 7:32 AM
Where I said "Dayton Accords" I meant to write "Oslo Accords".
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sun, February 8, 2009 - 12:34 AM
Steven A
Speaking of ideologies (as Ryan was), God help us! Now we have a moderator of the Palestine tribe who is a socialist ideologue. We really do not need this further complication!
I guess I have to say it again: I do not care whether any of you support Hamas or not. Hamas and the true Palestinians do not need your support. We support Palestinian Resistance against the bastard zioNazi war criminals no matter who raises the flag of Palestinian Resistance. Please spare us your ideologies!
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sun, February 8, 2009 - 7:51 AM
I won't spare you my ideology, just as I'm sure you won't spare me yours. Nor would I ask you to do so.
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sun, February 8, 2009 - 12:29 AM
Ryan
As I said, I am not going to be dragged into a waste of time and useless debates. But I have to express my astonishment at the false assumptions you make. Where did you see me denounce Fateh? I am not against Fateh, but the traitors who currently run the CIA faction in it (the bastard abbas and his corrupt cronies). They are not the whole of Fateh. I am sure if the bastard war-criminal zioNazis release Marwan Barghouti, for example, he will lead a more true Palestinian Fateh that will join forces with Hamas in a matter of days, to raise the flag of Palestinian Resistance. This I will support for sure!
Regarding ideology, I was replying to a specific point. I am NOT an ideologue. My only "ideology" is Palestinian Freedom and Statehood. If you can't see the difference, I can't educate you any further.
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Re: Hamas victory on the horizon!
Sun, February 8, 2009 - 1:41 AMHamas’ objective in firing rockets at Israel is not a matter of clarity but provocation. Hamas obviously cannot hope to gain a military advantage over Israel. Nor can it ever claim a viable military objective in bombing Israeli targets. Its attacks fit the classic definition of terrorism: they aim for civilian population centers with no other purpose than to terrorize the Israeli population while provoking the Israeli military.
In response, the Israeli military can choose to ignore the attacks, target militants in special operations within Gaza, or respond with overwhelming, deadly force. It chooses to respond with the latter, raising more questions about Israel’s motives than Hamas’.
Hamas has little to no viable objective to gain by bombing Israel other than to provoke a full-scale war, which it cannot possibly win. But Israel has equally little or no viable objective to gain by unleashing massive retaliations on the Gaza Strip while calling it “restrained.” Israel’s recent history should have been a lesson. It appears not to be.
The Israeli government and public can’t be expected to sustain rocket attacks without some form of retaliation. But Hamas isn’t attacking Israel in a vacuum, either. It’s attacking in large part as a result of long-lasting, long-bred, resentments fostered in large part by Israel’s siege of Gaza. Hamas has displayed self-defeating intransigence over reaching a political solution—either with Israel or with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. But Israel has displayed equally self-defeating intransigence.
Hamas’ attacks on Israel won’t achieve much but further taint Hamas’ already discredited image in the world community and, increasingly, among the Palestinians of Gaza as well. Israel’s attacks on Gaza won’t achieve much either but discredit the Israeli military while pointing out the limits of Israel’s iron-fist strategy. The solution between Israelis and Palestinians has never been military. It cannot be, when more than 8 million people are jammed together over a small crescent of land. The solution has always been political.
